tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365687279566410604.post2452102002189734651..comments2017-02-19T21:27:54.735-08:00Comments on I Am Acher!: For Deb: A Very Special EulogyFishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02428332306853424153noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365687279566410604.post-17396865472184926362013-10-03T18:26:24.889-07:002013-10-03T18:26:24.889-07:00Thank you for speaking up. I am sorry if my post ...Thank you for speaking up. I am sorry if my post made you and others in similar predicaments feel disenfranchised. <br /><br />Yes, I understand that even the slightest defecting from the community results in censure. I am aware of one Mr. Rottenberg who had his house burned down--perhaps on the Rebbe's orders--because he decided he wanted to daven by an old age home with his interred father instead of by the main minyan in NS. <br /><br />I am sorry if I made it sound like I was pigeonholing this issue into something for OTDs, Datlashes, Yotzei L'She'elot, or however formerly frum people self-identify these days.<br /><br />I hope the day comes that they learn to love their children more than they love being insular. Fishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02428332306853424153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365687279566410604.post-77960535280449120862013-10-01T17:37:13.259-07:002013-10-01T17:37:13.259-07:00The truth needs to be told - I think most posters ...The truth needs to be told - I think most posters here might be missing an important point:<br /><br />This isn't a story about treatment of "OTD" members of the community.<br /><br />New Square / Skver acts this way to ANYONE that...<br /><br />1) Once belonged to the community, and ... <br /><br />2) Dares to publicly express doubts about their false version of Orthodox Judaism.<br /><br />It his nothing to do with going OTD. Really.<br /><br />They did the same parental alienation thing to me - a STILL 100% ULTRA-ORTHODOX JEW.<br /><br />I was punished for getting disgusted by the ongoing moral lapses, financial shenanigans and deceptions that constantly go on in the upper echelons there. I knew what was going on, since at the time I was affiliated with several of their organizations and - at one time - a confident of the Rebbe.<br /><br />I knew that the Rebbe was (and IS) a fake, because he supported - and continues to support - frightening ethical & moral lapses, INCLUDING SERIOUS HALACHIC AND HASHKAFIC LAPSES.<br /><br />When I refused to stay silent, a campaign of demoralization, deception, dehumanization, and "gaslighting" followed. <br /><br />They're experts at "blowing off" any concerns that don't fit their agenda, and making you feel like trash. Tearing families apart? Fair game. <br /><br />There is nothing sacred in their book, once you dare to expose their failings. They will do EVERYTHING to demolish you, including spreading false rumors of the worst kind.<br /><br />Ms. Tambor writes:<br />My very own father,<br />Not only has he betrayed me<br />He made up lies<br /><br />They betrayed me, too - BECAUSE I REFUSED TO STAY SILENT!<br /><br />Many INSIDERS feel as I do, but they would never dear to speak up, because they know that their whole social support network and life-long affiliations would be DEMOLISHED.<br /><br />So... let's call a spade a spade, ok?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03826932784204196608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365687279566410604.post-16486855073338635292013-09-29T19:24:59.896-07:002013-09-29T19:24:59.896-07:00 thank you for expressing all of Our feelings, I g... thank you for expressing all of Our feelings, I grew up in a Hasidic community,<br /> I identify with her pain and hopelessness,this is a wake-up call for all of us Who Left an abusive community and toxic people, to Survive,To form our own support system,So a person like Deb would have a community support. Joel<br /><br /><br /> <br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14597483400018855220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365687279566410604.post-65969038554968068302013-09-29T19:00:58.891-07:002013-09-29T19:00:58.891-07:00Private message me on Facebook. My name is Michael...Private message me on Facebook. My name is Michael Fishman. My picture looks like a kid with a goatie painted on him. Fishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02428332306853424153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365687279566410604.post-50130877561860967772013-09-29T18:28:15.132-07:002013-09-29T18:28:15.132-07:00So sorry to hear this sad news. A friend of mine ...So sorry to hear this sad news. A friend of mine shared your blog with me. I am very interested in joining the FB group. Could u please share the name of the group so that I can join? Thank u.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365687279566410604.post-82707437429545993322013-09-29T11:58:36.066-07:002013-09-29T11:58:36.066-07:00It's amazing that a religion could possibly co...It's amazing that a religion could possibly consider itself moral and then do these types of things in the name of the religion. It's so sad that some of them are so blind.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13310234293587418486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365687279566410604.post-78208380049091788022013-09-29T05:14:09.266-07:002013-09-29T05:14:09.266-07:00As I just posted on bec's blog, that world is ...As I just posted on bec's blog, that world is evil. Subjecting children to it is a form of child abuse, and should no longer be tolerated. Gradual change is impossible; it must be forcibly dismantled.Jeff Eygeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11967707883565162538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365687279566410604.post-71037453898630946732013-09-28T19:35:19.048-07:002013-09-28T19:35:19.048-07:00bloggers are coming together to write about Deb Ta...bloggers are coming together to write about Deb Tambor.<br /><br />http://bit.ly/197vye6 << Abandoning Eden writes "The Death of an OTDer"<br />http://bit.ly/15BPogL <<My post: "Turning Parents and Children Against Each Other is Unacceptable"bechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16146699715760197131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2365687279566410604.post-59227013746748637732013-09-28T19:25:27.401-07:002013-09-28T19:25:27.401-07:00that was beautiful and necessary. and more than an...that was beautiful and necessary. and more than anything, i wish it wasn't necessary.bechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16146699715760197131noreply@blogger.com